Ocean Liners

Discussion in 'World Stamps' started by anglobob, Feb 3, 2018.

  1. anglobob

    anglobob Well-Known Member

    Have found threads about modern naval ships,sailing ships and ancient vessels.Hopefully this will add to the topic.
    The following stamps were issued in 1935 to commemorate the Paquebot Normandie.There were two different colour variations.
    Normandie 1.jpg
     
  2. anglobob

    anglobob Well-Known Member

    This is a French cinderella stamp also showing the Paquebot Normandie.I personally find this stamp much more interesting and colourful. Normandie.jpg
     
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  3. Molokai

    Molokai Well-Known Member

    Pretty stamps but I agree the cinderella is more impressive. The sea has been a calling to many men over the centuries, naturally quite a few stamps. "Seemann, Seemann deine heimat ist das meer..." A very beautiful German song; check it out on YouTube by Lolita.

    You won't find this ocean liner (the Conte Biancamo) on a stamp - it is a picture postcard my paternal grandparents sent home when they went back to Italy in 1929 to show how well they did in the New Country. It was mailed with a 2c Washington 4th Bureau stamp...not sure how that works while at sea.

    CBship.jpg
     
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  4. anglobob

    anglobob Well-Known Member

    Very interesting....

    Not familiar with the Lolita version of the song you mentioned.I remember a version by Petula Clark back when I was a youngster.
     
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  5. Molokai

    Molokai Well-Known Member

    Yes, I seem to remember Petula Clark doing a version of it. There were three foreign language songs that made it big in the States when I was a kid - Sukiyaki by Kyu Sakamoto in Japanese, Seemann in German by Lolita (Edith Einzinger) and Dominique by the Singing Nun (Jeanine Deckers) in French. Songs are typically best in their native tongue.
     
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  6. anglobob

    anglobob Well-Known Member

    A very rare error from France, Paquebot Pasteur. This stamp was issued in 1941 and had a surcharge of 1fr 70c overprinted on the stamp.This stamp is missing the surcharges.There is an example for sale on Delcampe for 35,000 Euros.Don,t think my wife would be too happy if I bought this....... paquebot pasteur.jpg
     
  7. Molokai

    Molokai Well-Known Member

    A lovely stamp!

    Ha! I catch it from my wife whenever another box of books arrives. "Are you going to collect stamps or stamp books?" "Why do you need more chess books now - even your phone can beat you no matter how much you read!"
     
  8. anglobob

    anglobob Well-Known Member

    Paquebot Ile de France. This is an airmail stamp from 1928 but the actual stamp was never issued,which was a pity as I think it is a very attractive looking stamp.
    However ,it is listed in the Maury catalogue , with a perforated and non-perforated version. The example shown is an unperforated essay. Paquebot ile de france.jpg
     
  9. DonSellos

    DonSellos Well-Known Member

    Nice item! It would be a super addition to a Ships topical collection.

    Maybe the French postal authorities came to the conclusion that it was a bit incongruous to put an oceanliner on an airmail stamp.:)

    Don
     
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  10. Molokai

    Molokai Well-Known Member

    Yes, it would have been a lovely stamp; very attractive just as it! You just never know about the French!;)
     
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  11. Molokai

    Molokai Well-Known Member

     
  12. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Would be interesting to know,wether the stamp will be sold.
    Also on Delcampe there is another offer for this stamp,this time
    priced € 8.799.-.The more expensive one does not mention,wether
    it is n.h.,the second one is hinged.
    There are also a number of forgeries of this stamp on offer.
    The pictures are not clear enough,to see wether the forgeries are
    engraved as the originals are.
    Both originals are offered as signed by experts.
    But who would trust such singing ? Nowadays,stamps of that
    calibre should be accompanied by a recent photo-attest of a
    still active expert.
    So,my best guess is,both stamps will remain unsold.
     
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  13. anglobob

    anglobob Well-Known Member

    This is still listed on Delcampe and I doubt if it will sell at that price. I found another example which sold for 12000Euros at a London auction house.
    Signings are a rather difficult matter as you say.I have seen examples of forged signatures and fake certificates.Maybe even a fake copy of another fake certificate.
    I was advised by a seller in France to only buy stamps with a well known expert signing....but even then you have to be very careful.
     
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  14. Molokai

    Molokai Well-Known Member

    It is a minefield out there, for sure! Yes, even certs can be faked or incorrect. I know 19th century U.S. can be very, very difficult. I've been working with the Newspaper & Periodical stamps lately and the general consensus is there are more fakes out there than legitimate stamps.
     
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