New Issues: Ireland

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  1. FitzjamesHorse

    FitzjamesHorse Active Member

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    National Ploughing Championships (two stamps and miniature sheet) and Secondary Education (one stamp)
     
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  2. Molokai

    Molokai Moderator Moderator

    What were the first Irish stamps?
     
  3. FitzjamesHorse

    FitzjamesHorse Active Member

    British stamps were used until Independence.
    The first definitive were issued in 1922
    The first commemoratives were issued in 1929/
     
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  4. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

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    The first stamp series of Ireland,issued on Feb.17th,1922
     
  5. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Because the black overprints did not contrast enough,(please take into account,that the original stamps are much smaller,than my scans !),three values were overprinted in read on April 1st.:
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    4 P. and 9 P. were also overprinted in carmine-red,I do not own,
    what are more expensive.
     
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  6. FitzjamesHorse

    FitzjamesHorse Active Member

    The Carmine overprints are on this page.
    It is impossible for me, a non-expert to verify the Carmine but I bought them as such from a reputable dealer forty years ago.
    I have all Ireland "low value" (ie to one shilling) overprints, mint and used. And I have most "high value" (Seahorse) overprints.
    I have all Irish commemoratives (1929-2017) mint and used with the exception of a used version of a very rare commemorative.
    I need some high value St Patrick stamps and some Definitive coils to complete my collection but one of them (2d value) is outside my budget.
    Hopefully I will do this in the next year.
    I also need about twelve Seahorse stamps.
    Increasingly I realise that full completion is not possible.

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  7. Molokai

    Molokai Moderator Moderator

    You certainly have a wonderful collection! As to completeness - for stamp collectors a goal we sometimes hope not to fulfill. Several of the most famous collectors built and sold collections multiple times in their lives.
     
  8. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

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    From Dec.11th onwards the overprint was altered:
    From "Rialtas Sealadac na hEireann 1922",(Government Provisional of Ireland 1922) to "Saorstát Eireann 1922" (Freestate Ireland 1922).
    The latter overprint was applied till 1935.
    Depending on the counting of types and colour-shades,all in all, about 80 different overprinted stamps exist.
    Of the overprinted seahorse stamps (Shilling-values) no fewer than six different sets were issued.All are quite expensive.

    By the way: not overprinted british stamps remained valid till
    April 1st,1922.Letters of that time (Feb.17 - April 1st) are much
    sought after.In combination with overprinted stamps such letters
    are quite expensive.
     
  9. FitzjamesHorse

    FitzjamesHorse Active Member

    For convenience the Narrow and Wide Date Seahorses are sold as two different sets. I have five of those six stamps but only in mounted mint condition. I don't have the 10/- "Wide Date" stamp. The real gold dust is a set of Narrow/Wide date pairs which is way beyond my budget.
    The SEahorses especially the Thom "Rialtas" set is beyond most collectors. I don't have any.
    In a way, the overprints are not "Irish" in the fullest sense of the word.
    With the exception of one coil stamp (2d map from 1934) all Irish designed stamps are within the budgets of most collectors.
     
  10. Molokai

    Molokai Moderator Moderator

    Fascinating. Your knowledge of worldwide philately is very impressive <Werner>.

    You and <FitzjamesHorse> have piqued my interest in Ireland. Alas, I have my hands full with my new venture U.S. Newspapers & Periodical stamps. I do have
    interest in Newfoundland, Tasmania, and Albania. "So much to know, so little time."
     
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  11. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately your scan is so small,that it is impossible to see
    the colours of the overprints.
     
  12. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

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    First "real irish" defintive series,issued Dec. 6th,1922 (2 P.),others
    Feb. 2nd - Dec. 21st 1923.
     
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  13. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    The above series was printed on watermarked paper SE.
    The series was reissued 1940/41 on paper watermarked e.
    Here the two (only) irish watermarks:
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    From the Ian Whyte cataologue
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    Here from stamps
    Ther are two series only,what were issued with both watermarks.
    The above one and the 1937 and 1942/68 St.Patrick definitive
    Shilling-values.
     
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  14. FitzjamesHorse

    FitzjamesHorse Active Member

    The Coil Definitives (SE Watermark) from the first Definitive series. I only have four of the five stamps in mounted mint condition. The fifth stamp (2d) is way outside my budget.
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  15. FitzjamesHorse

    FitzjamesHorse Active Member

    The Coil DEfinitives (E Watermark) from the second definitive series. Again, I only have two in mounted mint condition.
    The St Patrick (E Watermark) stamps are the White Paper variety. Coils2.jpg
     
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  16. FitzjamesHorse

    FitzjamesHorse Active Member

    St Patrick (SE Watermark) from 1937. Unfortunately I only have mounted mint version. But I hope to obtain used versions at next month's National Stamp Exhibition. StPatrickSE.jpg
     
  17. FitzjamesHorse

    FitzjamesHorse Active Member

    And finally the Definitives (E Watermark) including the St Patrick (Original Paper) version.
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  18. FitzjamesHorse

    FitzjamesHorse Active Member

    New Issue: Urban Street Art.
    21st September 2017
    Four stamps. All at National Rate. I bought two sets. I will post one set to myself in a few days time.
    And a "premium booklet". Not a big fan of these booklets but this one is quite good. As well as four sets of stamps (it costs E16), it shows pics of the four designs in their "street locations"...three are in Dublin City and one is in Limerick City. There is no real point in "premium booklets" except to sell to collectors like myself. Few will actually be used as postage. My reason for buying these booklets is that subsequently catalogues show them as being a variety of the original stamp.

    I am also not a fan of "Urban Street Art". It is too close to the crime of Graffiti for my liking. Maybe I am a philistine but every time I hear an art-lover praise these works, I have an urge to find out where they live so I can go to their home with a spray can of paint. UrbanArt.jpg
     
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