Hungarian stamp with overprint ID help needed

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  1. Makanudo

    Makanudo Moderator Moderator

    Thanks!

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    Makanudo, Aug 30, 2016
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  2. DonSellos

    DonSellos Moderator Moderator

    Makanudo:

    I would catalog the above stamp as Hungary, Sc. 203. Can't help with translation of the overprint. Can you translated for us?

    Don
     
    DonSellos, Aug 30, 2016
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  3. Makanudo

    Makanudo Moderator Moderator

    Don,

    I dont speak hungarian.
    Google translate says: "Hungarian soviet republic", which is odd, since the stamp is from 1919.
     
    Makanudo, Aug 30, 2016
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  4. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Not that odd:
    After the breakdown of the monarchy in November
    1918,a civil war broke out.For a few months a
    communist soviet republic was established in
    1919.When the right wing forces under Admiral
    Horty conquered Budapest in November 1919,
    the soviet republic of Hungary eneded.
    A few months later Hungary was declared a
    kingdom again,but the former king Charles IV,
    (Emperor Charles I of Austria) was not allowed
    to return.Hungary remained a nominal kingdom,
    but was in fact a fascist dictatorship,till the end
    of WW II.
     
    Werner Salentin, Aug 30, 2016
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  5. Makanudo

    Makanudo Moderator Moderator

    Thanks Werner,

    I really didnt know that abot Hungarys history.
     
    Makanudo, Aug 31, 2016
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  6. James-2489

    James-2489 Well-Known Member

    Hello Makanudo, I've been looking through some of the older threads and found this one, thought I'd investigate further.

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

    There was a period of revolutions and interventions in Hungary between 1918 and 1920. The Hungarian Democratic Republic was founded by Mihály Károlyi during the Aster Revolution in 1918. In March 1919, the republic was overturned by another revolution, and the Hungarian Republic of Councils (also known as Hungarian Soviet Republic) was created. The unresolved conflicts led to wars between Hungary and its neighbor states (Kingdom of Romania, Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes and the evolving Czechoslovakia in 1919. The Hungarian Soviet Republic ceased to exist after the Romanian occupation. The Treaty of Trianon in Versailles chilled the conflicts and beneficiaries for this event were Romania, the newly formed states of Czechoslovakia, and the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes.

    With the volatile and politically unstable atmosphere of Central Europe in the inter-war years, the establishment of independent governments of the former Austro-Hungarian Empire in November 1918 would see the struggle to regain territories of the former empire. However, Hungarian President for Hungarian Democratic Republic Mihály Károlyi resigned within four months (on March 20, 1919) in favor of Béla Kun, a pro-Bolshevik who had been sent by Lenin, quickly seizing power and establishing a dictatorship.

    Regards, James.
     
    James-2489, Oct 26, 2016
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  7. Makanudo

    Makanudo Moderator Moderator

    James,

    Thanks for additional info.
    WWI did change world map in terms of borders and countries, significantly.
    Hungary lost a lot of its territory in the dismantling of Austro Hungarian empire.
    WWII however resulted in greater migrations of ethnic groups.
     
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