Early stampless....HELP PLEASE....!

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  1. Rick 2

    Rick 2 Member

    OK, OK, I know this is a "Stamp" forum......but everything postal right??;) Any advice on where to send a stamp-less cover for authenticity check?? I have one dated April 1664 on inside. I cannot read since its possible its written in Italian, but it references Venice ( the only word I recognized ). Date is at lower left....and upper left. 1664outer.jpg 1664inner.jpg
     
    Rick 2, Jan 19, 2021
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    Rick go to Richard Frajola board of Philatelic experts, Just type in Richard Frajola stamps it should pop up on google. Apply for a member ship for free and all the experts will help you with any item you ever need help with. Good luck. They are the best in the world, so just remember what they say is all true.They will give you the route it was taken on, likely by who, if the rate charged was correct and so on.
     
    RichardBabcock, Jan 20, 2021
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    ....yeah its kinda weird that the 2 dates do not match.....I think one says Apr, the other Mar?? Maybe its referencing another earlier letter? Maybe if I went to a Italian specialist.......
     
    Rick 2, Jan 19, 2021
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    I believe that most of the mail circulated in 17th century Italian States was done by private courier. So absent normal service markings it wouldn't be practical to expertise such mailings. You would likely get a great deal of information from an Italian specialist. Without a fundamental understanding of the contents of the text I couldn't even guess why the two different dates are on the same letter.
    Nice stampless cover and excellent condition for a document of such age.
     
    Hochstrasse, Jan 20, 2021
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    Rick go to Richard Frajola board of Philatelic experts, Just type in Richard Frajola stamps it should pop up on google. Apply for a member ship for free and all the experts will help you with any item you ever need help with. Good luck. They are the best in the world, so just remember what they say is all true.They will give you the route it was taken on, likely by who, if the rate charged was correct and so on.
     
    RichardBabcock, Jan 20, 2021
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    Thank you Richard!
     
    Rick 2, Jan 22, 2021
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    Thanks Hochstrasse!
     
    Rick 2, Jan 22, 2021
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    OK, I went to the site, signed up, and sent pics and comments about my cover. 1 hr later Richard sent this reply..."It appears to me to be a genuine 1664 use from Malta to Padua, Italy. Seems to have been written in March 1664 and received in April 1664." That would explain the 2 dates on the letter.....! By far my earliest dated cover /enclosure.......and now its going to a translator, if I can find one at local college. Thanks again Richard!
     
    Rick 2, Jan 23, 2021
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  9. RichardBabcock

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    They just offered to translate it on line, And want a scan of the back.The board is quite busy I recommend contacting the member via email for the translation.
     
    RichardBabcock, Jan 23, 2021
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