Conductors on Stamps

Discussion in 'Stamp Chat' started by Molokai, Dec 23, 2017.

  1. Molokai

    Molokai Well-Known Member

    Apologies if we have this topical already on StampExchange.

    My three ATF (in order) are Carlos Kleiber, Otto Klemperer and Arturo Toscanini.

    I don't find a stamp for Kleiber. Klemperer's best work (IMHO) was in the 1940s and 1950s. Into the 1960s he slowed things down so much a lot of his Beethoven sounds like a funeral dirge. His tempos were always slow, to bring out the various instrumental groups and making for never-again superiority in dynamics.

    KlempererStamp.jpg

    Toscanini did wonderful Beethoven. In the video below, the Tympani come in too loud and you can see Arturo's quick displeasure at 7:43.

    ToscaniniStamp.jpg



    As you can see on the various YouTube videos, opinions on conductors and specific pieces vary enormously. To each, his own!
     
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  2. Hochstrasse

    Hochstrasse Well-Known Member

    Molokai,
    I found an interesting blog that features composers, conductors, singers and performers on stamp. Although it doesn't look like it's currently active it does have a nice grouping of music related stamps. Personally I don't have a favorite conductor, I actually never really thought about it I guess.
    http://musiconstamps.blogspot.com/
     
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  3. Molokai

    Molokai Well-Known Member

    Nice link; thank you HOCH!
     
  4. Molokai

    Molokai Well-Known Member

    The very famous Wilhelm Furtwangler. The only well-known conductor not to leave Germany during Hitler's reign. Somewhat controversial on that score (no pun intended!) but he wasn't afraid to go up against the regime. Early on he is to have said of Hitler, "This hissing street peddler will never get anywhere in Germany" - too bad he was wrong.

    He wrote a scathing letter to Goebbels about the Reich's antisemitism...and almost got himself sent to a concentration camp!

    As to style, a little too formal for my tastes but always majestic...

    furz2stamp.jpg
     
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  5. Hochstrasse

    Hochstrasse Well-Known Member

    Hi Molokai!

    I have heard of Furtwangler, but he as well as all other conductors have really never fascinated me. I'm sorry to say that my ignorance on the subtle nuances that conductors place on their orchestras with particular pieces of music don't interest me other than to say I prefer a certain recording over another.
     
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  6. Molokai

    Molokai Well-Known Member

    A music major friend introduced me to classical music in college. Like many subjects including stamp collecting, you can plumb it as deep as you want. As they say, "I don't know art, but I know what I like!"
     
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  7. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Dir D2020.jpg
    Ramin,mainly an organist,held one of the most prestigious
    musical postions there are: Thomaskantor in Leipzig.
    The position once held by one of the greatest,in my opinion the
    greatest in the world of music,Johann Sebastian Bach.
    Stamp issued Oct.8th,1998
     
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  8. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Dir D2025.jpg
    No specific conductor on this stamp,issued Nov.12th,1998
     
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  9. Molokai

    Molokai Well-Known Member


    Pretty!
     
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  10. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Robert Stolz,known as composer of operettas and film-musics and
    song-writer,worked in different music-theatres as conductor.
    He also conducted his own compositions and became a legend
    as the last living master of the Vienna-Operetta.The 1920th and
    early 30th he lived in Berlin,but returned to Austria when the
    Nazi-opression became to strong.After the "Anschluß" in 1938
    he left Austria for the US,where he stayed the war over.
    After a long life of 95 years,he died in Berlin 1975,during a
    recording-session.
    Stamps commemorating his 100th birth-anniversary:
    Dir Ö 1652.jpg
    issued Aug.25th,1980

    Dir B627.jpg
    issued Aug.14th,1980
     
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  11. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Dir B124.jpg
    Dir D2076.jpg
    stamps issued Sept.18th,1954 and Sept.16th,1999

    Richard Strauss composer and conductor.The most eminent
    german composer of the late 19th and the 20th century.
     
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  12. Molokai

    Molokai Well-Known Member

    Q-Was he related in any way to Johann of the marches and waltzes?
     
  13. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    No,Richard Strauss was in no way related to the Strauss-Dynasty of
    Vienna.
    Strauss or spelled Strauß is not a very common,but also not a rare
    name in Germany.
    The Strauss-Dynasty of Johann Strauss (Vater),Johann Strauß (Sohn),the "waltzes-king" and his brothers Josef and Eduard were all
    successfull composers.Even in the following generation two grandsons
    were conducters and composers.
    Johann Strauss (Sohn)(1825-1899) was the first musician,who ran
    a very successful music business,what made him a very rich man.
    The family was from and in Vienna,although Johann Strauß (Sohn)
    later denounced his austrian citizenship and took the german
    citizenship.
     
  14. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Dir D2186.jpg
    issued May 10th,2001
    Werner Egk,composer and conductor.
    Egk,born as Werner Joseph Mayer,was a neo-classical composer.
    He won a gold-medal at the 1936 Olympic Games for his
    "Olympische Festmusik".
    He was patronaged by Goebbels and liked by Hitler and was
    close to the Nazi-movement.
    This did not matter much after the war.He remained in musical
    top-positions all his life.
     
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  15. DonSellos

    DonSellos Well-Known Member

    Hi Werner:

    A question about that stamp: I note the value, Egk's name and dates of life, and Deutschland are printed on a slight diagonal. Is that diagonal printing on all of these stamps or is this stamp from a sheet that the printing was slightly misaligned? It seems to me that the printing should be vertical.

    I like that cancel too. Briefzentrum 74 is at Heilbronn.

    Don
     
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  16. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Don,
    unfortunately it is no misprint.I am no friend of 20th century
    e-music (modern classic).Possibly the designer wasn´t either.
    So he placed the inscriptions in a slightly chaotic order.
    Similar to the tunes in that class of music.

    I do not know the locations of the different "Briefzentren".
    But that type of cancellation is wanted in Germany.
    Michel-prices for used stamps are for stamps with a cancel
    what clearly shows date and place.
    Because of that used US stamps of,let´s say,the last eighty
    years are priced the same mint.n.h. or used by Michel,except
    of some regulars.
    Modern german stamps with killer-cancels are practically
    worthless and most collectors would not want them at all.

    Werner
     
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  17. Molokai

    Molokai Well-Known Member

    I thought some here might be interested in this article. Beethoven did some conducting. There is a somewhat sad story about when he attempted to conduct his 7th Symphony (my very favorite piece of music) when he was nearly deaf.

    Beethoventamp.jpg
     
  18. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately the article is shown so small,that I cannot read it.
    However I can read the Headline.
    It is just false !
    The shown stamp does not show Beethoven´s death-mask of 1827.
    However it is based on the living-mask,made by Franz Klein in 1812.
    This was two years before Beethoven gave his last public concert
    as a pianist in 1814.Totally deaf he likely was around 1818.
    But he still conducted concerts and composed some of his greatest
    works.
    I am not sure,if this was the last concert he conducted:
    On May 7th,1824 he conducted among other works the first
    peformance of the 9th Symphonie.Because of his total deafness,
    he was helped by an "assistant-conductor".
    People wanted to see the genius,as he was rightly regarded
    by the Viennese (society),the imperial family inclusive.
    Dir Ö S1692.jpg
    issued Oct.20th,1995
     
  19. Molokai

    Molokai Well-Known Member

    I am sorry you cannot read the article <WERNER>. It is fine to me but depends on monitor size and resolution. I have three 32" 4k monitors. You can copy the image to WORD then use the zoom feature.

    Danke for the correction and update! I would send it along to the editors but I suspect they have all been mounted to the Great Stamp Album in the Sky.:rolleyes:
     
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  20. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Dir Ö.jpg
    Another stamp,commemorating Richard Strauss,unfortunately badly
    cancelled.Issued June 1st,1989.
     
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