Classical Stamps

Discussion in 'What's it Worth?' started by Werner Salentin, Oct 1, 2016.

  1. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

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    Issued 1863/64 the wide-perforated set (2 & 3 Kr. missing)
    was printed from mid-1864 onwards on paper with the sheet-
    watermark "BRIEF-MARKEN."
     
  2. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

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    The same set in Soldi-currency (2,3,5,10,15 Soldi) was issued
    in 1864.
    For use in Venetia and the Levante.
    Stamps with Levante cancellation are slightly more worth than
    used in Venetia.
     
  3. Makanudo

    Makanudo Moderator Moderator

    Great stamps Werner!
     
  4. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    In February 1867 Hungary became a kingdom,seperated from
    the Empire of Austria.However,Emperor Franz Josef was also
    the King of Hungary.
    A new definitive series was issued,with no inscription,so it
    would not favour any language.
    The values expressed in kr. served both languages:
    Kreuzer in German and Krajczár in Hungarian.
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    issued on June 1st,1967
    On Sept.1st,1967 two additional values 25 and 50 Kr. were
    issued,what I do not have.
    The above stamps are of coarse printing.
    This was the last common issue for Austria and Hungary.
    In 1871 Hungary started issuing her own seperate stamps.
    (see my posting 35 in this thread)
     
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  5. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

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    in 1874 the printing-methode was changed.Before felt was used
    for as printing-underlay.Now they used paper.That resulted in
    finer prints.The plates were not altered or changed !
    Again I have no 25 and 50 Kreuzer.
    The fine prints were valid and used in Austria only.
     
  6. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    1866 Venetia was ceded to Italy.Later issues in Soldi - currency
    were for use in the Levante only.
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    The 1867 set contained further values of 2,3,25 and 50 Soldi
    in coarse print.
     
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  7. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

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    The fine print stamps came into use between 1875 and 1883.
    I have the 5 Soldi only.The other vaues are 2,3,10,15 and 25 Soldi.
     
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  8. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

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    The scan shows nicely the coarse printed stamp on the left
    and the fine print on the right.
    However not all stamps show the characteristics so well !
     
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  9. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    The last stamp of the classical periode,issued June 1st,1867.
    Of course one could argue that the next following stamp,the
    1/2 Kreuzer Newspaper-Stamp looks nearly the same as the
    1 Kr. shown here.But it was issued in 1880.So I think,it is a
    reasonable idea,to make the break between these two.
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    This stamp was printed onwards till 1884 and was valid till 1900.
    So many different types,coarse and fine prints,with or without
    watermark exist.
    As it was at the end of the classical periode,when stamp-collecting
    became popular,many stamps have survived,so that the basic
    types are well affordable.More than two billions were printed.

    You may have noticed,that I did not show the Newspaper Stamps
    from 1858/59,1861 and 1863.
    The last one is not expensive,but I just don´t own it.
    The ones from 1858,1859 and 1861 are pricey,and may well
    cost more than cat.-value,if in a nice colour and shape.
    They also were printed in rather big numbers 12 millions the
    1858 one,80 millions the one from 1859 and 90 millions the
    one from 1861.However the same happened as with the Mercuries:
    very few of them survived.
     
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  10. Makanudo

    Makanudo Moderator Moderator

    Werner,
    I hope you dont find this a misuse of your thread, but I think it somehow leans on K und K empire stamps, as it was issued during the Serbian struggle for the independance from turkish governance that lasted since the 15th century.
    The design resembles, naturally, imperial stamps of the time.
    These are only two stamps of the large series issued in 1969:

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  11. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Milan,by no means it is something like a misuse ! Quite to the
    contrary,I am glad if this thread is not a one man show !
    I must admit,that I know very little about the stamps of Serbia.
    Only one I own,shown in my post no.28 in this thread.
    I had a look at Michel and found that the two stamps you
    have shown,are part of a very interesting set.
    Michel lists five different major prints,each with a wealth of
    different perforations.
     
  12. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Just 3 stamps I own of Sicily,part of the Kingdom of the Two
    Sicilies.But then,according to Michel only seven stamps in total
    (Scott makes it nine) were issued,before Garribaldis troops
    conquered the kingdom in 1860 and incorporated it into the
    new Kingdom of Italy.
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    The stamps,issued on Jan.1st,1859,were valid till July 17th,1860.
    They show King Ferdinand II,whos reign of more than 28 years
    was one of corruption and terror that ended with his dead in 1859.
    But the stamps were great !
     
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  13. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    The Kingdom of Naples was situated on the mainland of southern
    Italy.It was the "other" part of the Kindom of the Two Sicilies.
    Seven stamps were issued on Jan.1st,1858.
    Two more rare and expensive stamps were issued after the
    abolition of the monarchy in Nov. and Dec. 1860,before the
    incorporated into the new united Italy.
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  14. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    As the former Kingdom of the Two Sicilies had a different currency
    than the rest of Italy (1 Ducata = 100 Grana = 200 Tornesi)
    (1 Ducata was equivalent to 4.24 Italian Lire),eight seperate
    stamps with the portrait of King Victor Emanuel II. were issued
    in Feb./May 1861.
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    this is the lone one,I have
     
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  15. Makanudo

    Makanudo Moderator Moderator

    Werner,

    Please show us more of your Scandinavian collection.
    I would love to see some danish stamps.
    Let me start off with No. 1951:

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  16. Makanudo

    Makanudo Moderator Moderator

    Here are some turkish stamps from that era. I am not sure, but I think they should be before 1975

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  17. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Milan,
    I am not quite sure,what you mean with No.1951.
    My guess is that you misstyped for 1851.
    However the shown stamp is from 1858.
    But anyway,I am glad to oblige and will show my danish classical
    stamps next,hopefully this weekend.
    But please do not overestimate the depth of my collection !
    I have few stamps only,missing all the expensive ones.

    Werner
     
  18. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    In my opinion (I am quite sure being right) the shown stamps
    are of the overprint type VI.
    They were issued between April 1876 to May 1877.
     
  19. Makanudo

    Makanudo Moderator Moderator

    Werner,

    Thanks for addressing both of my posts.
    Naturally, I made a mistake. I didnt even want to write year. What I meant to write was No.02, although I wasnt sure it was the first issue.
    You are saying it is A4 from Scott(No.7 or 7a).
    How Can you tell? i mean, I think you are correct, but the way to tell would be to see if wavy lines look embossed, right?
     
  20. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Milan,
    I cannot really say,whether your stamp is Scott 7a or 7b.
    Perhaps the watermark might help.But as the difference between
    Wmk.111 and 112 is not really striking.It still might leave you guessing.
    However it looks to me,that the colour of your stamp is a light
    brown.Scott names it yellow-brown,while Michel calls it orange-
    brown.So if the scan is true-coloured,my best guess is 7a.
    However 7a can also be dark-brown,like 7b is.And I guess
    different tones will exist.
     
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