Classical Stamps

Discussion in 'What's it Worth?' started by Werner Salentin, Oct 1, 2016.

  1. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    221Bakerstr. and 221Bakerstr.2 the same person ?
    Or just more incarnations of R... ?

    But back to Scott O13,or the "reprint" of it.
    The differences between originals and reprints
    a) the overprint of the reprint is of a darker green than that of the original.
    b) the size of SERVICE ang POSTAGE on reprints is a good deal smaller than
    on originals.
    I doubt that forgeries of the reprints do exist at all.
    Firstly,you would need the Revenue Stamp.I am no Revenue Stamps collector,
    but my best guess is,that at least in mint condition,they will be anything but
    common.
    Secondly why should a forgerer produce a reprint ? It would be no more
    difficult to make an "original",what are more expensive and more in demand.
     
  2. anglobob

    anglobob Moderator Moderator

    Werner.....not all forgers are what you would describe as intellectually sound.Reminds me of a famous Irish counterfeiter who altered 2UKL coins to make them look like 1UKL coins........

    Bob
     
  3. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Robert,
    you may be right !
    But in any case I take every bet,that the forged 1 pound-coins are worth much
    more than 2 pounds.
    Maybe,that was the idea of the not that stupid Irish Man ?

    Werner
     
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  4. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    V Italien 2.jpg
    Italy
    upper stamp: 1/2 Grano,issued 1861 for the former kingdom of Naples.
    (from a set of 8)
    middle: 80 C.,issued Oct,3rd,1862. (from a set of 4) In used condition a very
    expensive stamp.
    bottom: additional value,issued Jan.1st,1863.
     
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  5. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    V Italien 16.jpg
    issued Dec.1st,1863;
     
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  6. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    V Italien 23.jpg
    1 C. issued 1863, 2 C. issued March 1st,1865, 20 C. issued April 1867;
     
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  7. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

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    The above letter with a 9 Kreuzer Baden missprint on green paper (the paper of the 6 Kreuzer),instead on lilac rose paper,was sold in Germany for roughly
    US-$ 1.8 millions,fees and taxes incl.
    It is said to be the highest price payed for a german stamp ever.
    Three specimens of this missprint are known.Two on letter,one on a letter-piece.
    The sold letter belonged to the collection of the german billionaire Erivan Haub,
    who died 2018,aged 85.
     
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  8. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    V Modena 1.jpg
    The Duchy of Modena issued six stamps 5,10,15,25,40 C. and 1 Lira on June 1st,1851.Except of the 15 and 25 C. (no period only) all values exist with or
    without a period after the figures of value.

    In 1859 a provisional government issued five more stamps,prior the introduction of the stamps of Sardinia and later of Italy.
    There are also five newspaper tax stamps,issued 1853/59.
     
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  9. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    V Parma 2.jpg
    Parma,first series,issued June 1st,1852.
    Except of the 10 C. all stamps (5,15,25,40 C.) of the first series
    were printed on coloured paper.
     
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  10. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    V Parma 6.jpg
    Parma,second series coloured on white paper,
    issued Dec.31st,1853 (5 C.),Dec.30th,1853 (15 C.) and 25 C., I do not have),
    issued May 28th,1855.
     
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  11. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    V Parma 10.jpg
    One stamp only of the third series.
    issued: 15 C. March 4th,1859,25 C. July 3rd,1857,40 C. June 30th,1857

    After the abolition of the duchy 1859,stamps of Sardinia were used for a short time.End of August/September a set of five stamps and two newspaper-tax
    stamps were issued by the provisional government.
    In March 1860 Parma became a part of Sardinia and subsequently of Italy.
     
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  12. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    V Romagna 5.jpg
    Romagna was part of the Papal State.It broke away in 1859 and joined the
    united Italy soon after.
    Nine stamps were issued in 1859 (1/2,1,2,3,4,5,6,8,20 Bajocchi).
    Except of the shown 4 B.,the stamps were not used a lot.So mint stamps
    are much cheaper than used ones and cancel-forgeries are plentiful.
     
  13. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    The kindom of Sardinia was,apart from the island,situated in the north-west
    of Italy.In 1859/60 Sardinia annexed nearly all other Italian States and
    was renamed Kingdom of Italy.
    V Sardinien 2.jpg
    upper right: first issue 1851 3 val. 5,20 (shown),40 C.

    The second issue of 1853 is like 1851,but now the head of the king
    and insriptions are embossed.

    lower left: third issue 1854 same values,frame fully coloured,head of the king colourless embossed.Shown is the 20 C.

    upper left and lower right: fourth issue 1855-63,head only embossed.
    This series is rich in different prints,shades etc.
    5,10,20,40 (shown),80 C.,3 L. (shown).The bronze colour of the 3 L.
    appears brown on my scan.
    Same stamps perforated = Italy 1862 issue.

    Two newspaper stamps (1 and 2 C.) were issued in 1861,what show the
    numerals embossed in the centre oval.
     
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