Classical Stamps

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  1. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    V Indien 11.jpg
    1856/58 whitish paper (1/2 Anna missing)
     
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  2. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    V Indien 13.jpg
    upper: 1856/58 4 Annas (8 As.is missing)
    lower: stamp for soldier´s letters,issued May 9th,1860.
    The 8 Pies stamp was the first issue by the Crown Colony Government.
    The earliar ones had been issued by the East India Company.
     
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  3. anglobob

    anglobob Moderator Moderator

    Stamps from Trinidad and Tobago,issued from 1953 to 1955.
    Image (125).jpg
     
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  4. DonSellos

    DonSellos Moderator Moderator

    I have often wondered why some of the GB colonies shifted to the small, definitive size stamps for the high values of a set. Anyone know?

    Don
     
  5. anglobob

    anglobob Moderator Moderator

    Sorry....posted this in the wrong thread.I have no idea why these high values were more like definitive stamps.
    Colonies such as St Lucia and St Vincent issued series with mostly all definitive style stamps..I will post them later.....hopefully in the correct thread
     
  6. RuStamps

    RuStamps Member

    V Indien 11.jpg

    Are these actual images of India stamps
    Are they from bad eBay scan. color looks wrong
     
  7. RuStamps

    RuStamps Member

    Mr Salentin For next post so stamps are visible
    Clipboard01.jpg
     
  8. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    V Indien 16.jpg
    upper stamp: 4 As.in new colour,issued in 1864
    lower stamps: previous stamps,now on watermarked paper "Elephant´s Head"
    issued 1865. (sorry for the inverted 2 As.!)
    missing:8 Pies.,1,4,8 Annas

    The 1/2 Anna was reissued in 1873,now with queen´s opened lips.
    V Indien 17I.jpg
     
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  9. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    V Indien 24.jpg
    additional values and changed designs,issued Sept.1866,8 As.Jan.1868
     
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  10. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    V Indien D14.jpg
    The early issues of service stamps are rather pricy.This is very much true
    for a set of five overprinted revenue stamps,issued 1866 (Sc.nos.O11-O15),
    with an cat.value exceeding € 10.000.-.
    I can show only one of them and that is no original,but a reprint,or better
    official imitation.The overprint slightly differs from that of originals.
    Michel values the reprints at 60% of the prices of originals.

    A similar defintive,a 6 Annas value,was issued June 28th,1866.
     
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  11. anglobob

    anglobob Moderator Moderator

    Werner....What is the catalogue value of item shown ?
    Do you know if Gibbons lists the reprints ?
    Bob
     
  12. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    Bob,
    Gibbons,as well as Scott footnote the "reprints" quite detailed,but give no
    prices for them.However my "latest" Gibbons is the 1989 edition.
    Michel´s footnote is less detailed,but prices them 40% cheaper than the originals.
    Michel for the mint original 4 Annas is € 4500.-.So the reprint would be € 2700.-.
    I do not remember,when and where and at what price I got that stamp.
    Werner
     
  13. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    V Indien D17.jpg
    service large letters,issued 1867 (1/2,2 and 8 Annas misssing)
     
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  14. 221BakerStr

    221BakerStr New Member

    Gibbons India Specialized
    "So-called reprints of Nos. 015 to 018 are known, but in these the
    surcharge differs entirely in the spacing, etc., of the words; they are more
    properly described as Government imitations. The imitations of No.
    015 have surcharge in black or in green."

    Given their description as imitations it would not appear they have much value
    Yours may not be a reprint as the word spacing is very different see below
    Reprint.jpg

    The one you show should have a green overprint as this certified one below (light to dark green depending on wear)
    The letters also do not match
    The surface wear is also very typical of this issue
    Unfortunately that does not leave many options for the one you posted

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  15. anglobob

    anglobob Moderator Moderator

    I reckon Sherlock Holmes could spot a fake..............:clown:
     
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  16. 221BakerStr2

    221BakerStr2 New Member

    A few other India Classics

    1854, Deep Vermilion, 9.5 Arches (SG 1a.jpg
    1854, Deep Vermilion, 91/2 Arches SG 1a - unissued stamp

    1854, 1a Deep Red SG 11; Scott 4 Die I.jpg
    1854, Deep Red SG 11; Scott 4 Die I
     
  17. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    In regard to post #436:
    211 BakerStr.,
    I have to admit,that I cannot get the point of your post.I don´t know
    what you want to say.
    Regards
    Werner
     
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  18. 221BakerStr2

    221BakerStr2 New Member

    I thought it was clear and others got it
    I dont like to be blunt so -ITS A FAKE
     
  19. Werner Salentin

    Werner Salentin Well-Known Member

    221Bakerstr. and 221Bakerstr.2 the same person ?
    Or just more incarnations of R... ?

    But back to Scott O13,or the "reprint" of it.
    The differences between originals and reprints
    a) the overprint of the reprint is of a darker green than that of the original.
    b) the size of SERVICE ang POSTAGE on reprints is a good deal smaller than
    on originals.
    I doubt that forgeries of the reprints do exist at all.
    Firstly,you would need the Revenue Stamp.I am no Revenue Stamps collector,
    but my best guess is,that at least in mint condition,they will be anything but
    common.
    Secondly why should a forgerer produce a reprint ? It would be no more
    difficult to make an "original",what are more expensive and more in demand.
     
  20. anglobob

    anglobob Moderator Moderator

    Werner.....not all forgers are what you would describe as intellectually sound.Reminds me of a famous Irish counterfeiter who altered 2UKL coins to make them look like 1UKL coins........

    Bob
     
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