Today I start hijacking another section. Classical stamps according to my own,of course non-binding definition (not even for me),are all stamps issued till 1875.Later issues are included, if they show the design of stamps issued before 1875. Of course,due to the lack of funds,I have of no of the shown countries the "classical" stamps complete.But perhaps others can show more. My first country,is not a proper country at all: Bergedorf Bergedorf,today a suburb of Hamburg,was a condominium of Lübeck and Hamburg.No more than 3000 people lived there in 1861,when stamps were issued.Five stamps became valid on Nov.1st,1861.Of the 1/2 Schilling a reissue was put on sale in 1867,what differs in the tone of blue and a slightly smaller design. The stamps of Bergedorf were valid till Dec.31st, 1868,when they were supersed by stamps of the Nordeutscher Postbezirk (North-German Conferderation). I can show three values:Mi.1a,3 and 4 The central design shows half of each the coats of arms of Lübeck (to the left) and Hamurg (right). The stamps are mint quite affordable,especially if without gum.In used condition Bergedorf-stamps are quite expensive,on letters rarities.That is why stamps with faked cancellations are common.Expertizing is an absolute must ! But also in mint many reprints and forgeries exist, but are not to difficult to detect.
Hello Werner, Nice stamps. I believe your "country" is new to me, I do not think that I have seen it before. When I return to the UK next year I will look through my collection to verify my statement. Regards, James.
Werner: Bergedorf is new to me as well. With such a small population the number of stamps printed must have been small too. Your time frame for "classic" is not large. I am not sure I have any stamps, even U.S., between 1840 and 1875. I don't collect in that time frame due to high prices, but it will be interesting to see some stamps from that period. Don
Don,probably bigger than you might think. 1/2 S.prussian blue 160 000 1/2 S. blue 40 000 1 S. 90 000 1 1/2 S. 100 000 3 S. 80 000 4 S. 80 000 The 1/2 S.blue was issued in 1867 and could be used only till the end of 1867. However as with small modern states today,like Liechtenstein or Vatican,most stamps were bought by collectors and only few saw postal service.
A more familiar country:Ottoman Empire (Turkey) First issue,Jan.12th,1863 20 Para left, 2 Piasters right.The red band at the bottom: postage stamp. Januar 1st,1863 Postage Due 1 Piaster Blue band: postage due
Werner: That is a large run for a small population. I should have known about these stamps. They are listed in Scott in the German States section. I have never seen any examples of these before. Something new learned with your Bergedorf posts. Don
To some extent 'classic' is country specific I would think? U.S. material, all I am even moderately acquainted with, seems to divide where the U.S. Bureau of Engraving took over in 1894. The Bergedorf material is fascinating!
I posted this set before in another thread. But as it is a true classic,here it is again: Ionian Islands,British Protectorate,issued June 15th,1859.Valid till 1864,when the Islands were united with Greece.
Today I want to start showing the stamps of a very special... It is difficult to describe, because it is no country: Thurn & Taxis. Thurn and Taxis is the name of a princely family,what organized the first Europe-wide mail service in 1490 by the order of the future Emperor Maximilian I (The Last Knight). They were subsequently appointed General Postmaster of the Holy Roman Empire of German Nations. In 1852,when Thurn & Taxis issued their first stamps series,they took care of the postal services of about twenty german states. For northern Germany stamps were valued in Silbergroschen (1 Thaler = 30 Silbergr.), for southern Germany in Kreuzer (1 Florin = 60 Kreuzer).1 Sgr.was equivalent to 3 Kreuzer. Here the first series of 1852 (missing is the 1/3 Sgr.): On the 9 Kr. you can see,what makes collecting Thurn & Taxis a challenge: stamps with margins all around are uncommon,because the distance between the stamps is very small.Full margin copies,like the 9 Kr. often show parts of the neighbouring stamps.In this case on three sides. Catalogue values are for stamps what are touched on at least one side.Stamps cut into are cheaper,full margin copies cost several times the cat.value,depending on the cut. In 1853 the 1 Sgr. and the 3 Kr. were reissued in slightly different colours:
Thurn & Taxis 2nd series 1859/61,single colour stamps: There are no known forgeries of T.&T. The designs are too complicated.But cancellation- forgeries are plentiful of all stamps,what are cheap in mint condition. Here a larger scan of the 30 Kr.stamp,what show the details better:
Thurn & Taxis 3rd series 1862/63,new colours (missing are 6 and 9 Kr.) As series 4 and 5 are basically the same stamps, you will see the missing two stamps there.
Thurn & Taxis 4th series,1865 rouletted colourless The following scan demonstrates how close the stamps are to each other: So the same is true for this series as well as for the three proceeding ones:four margin well centered stamps are rare.
Hello all, here are some "Winged Mercury" newspaper stamps from Austria 1908. I have a large number of the Cobolt Blue 2 Heller values, three different paper types, four perfs, and colour variations, one 6H used and one each 10 & 20 MH Regards, James
Hello all, I have a fair number of the Thurn & Taxis stamps, they were posted on another forum some years ago, at present I cannot post here because I cannot find the original scan, it may be on my old desktop WD-HDD back in the UK. My brother may be able to connect it to the system so that I can get access from here. Possibly I will be able to post at a later date. Regards, James.
An interesting issue.Three different papers, chalky paper 1908,dull/thin/translucent paper 1909 and thicker/smooth paper 1910. Exist perf.12,5 as presentation stamp. Privately rouletted or perforated stamps value about three times more,if on a wrapper.Loose ones value the same as normal stamps. Newspaper stamps were printed in very big quantities.The most common,the 2 Heller, will be nearer in the range of billions,than millions.But no official printing numbers exist. Validity till the end of 1916.
Thurn & Taxis,5th series,1866,rouletted in coloured lines: For comparison the 3 Kreuzer values from series 3,4 and 5:
What else to say about Thurn & Taxis ? T & T is a real classic. Of the 54 stamps issued 18 were sold as reminders when on June 30th,1867 T & T stamps became invalid.Prussia had bought the T & T postal services and prussian stamps were used from then on till the end of the year,when these were superseded by the stamps of the "Norddeutscher Postbezirk (North German Confederation). Those 18 reminders are very affordable in mint condition.Where else,worldwide,can you find stamps from the 1860´s costing less than € 5.- in mint,n.h. (!) condition ? As said before,there are no known forgeries of T & T stamps.However all remainders are quite expensive in used condition.So many cancel-forgeries are around. But there are other forgeries as well.But they so obvious,that only bloody beginners,like myself,can fall to them ! I bought this stamp on an auction,described as mint,ideally centered with even margins all around.An indeed it is.But it is not the 1/4 Sgr. of the 3rd (imperforated) series,but a trimmed one of the 5th. The 5th series rouletting was applied in one move with the printing.Because of that the printing pressure had to be higher and most stamps show a relief on the back. But this relief can be ironed out.So my advice is: collect the 3rd series in stamps not so well centered,preferably with parts of a neighbouring stamp.You cannot go wrong then. To close,here some modern stamps from (West-) Germany,in connection with Thurn & Taxis: 1952: 100 Anniv.of Thurn & Taxis stamps 1965: 125th Anniv.of postage stamps (Penny Black) 1967: 450th death-anniv. of Franz von Taxis, the founder of the first modern postal system.
Of a number of countries I have one or two stamps only.All stamps prove,that old stamps must not necessarily be expensive ! 1876 & 1875 Costa Rica 1863 Ecuador 1865 and 1872 New Brunswick 1860 1862 (?) more likely slightly altered (cheap) reprints of the 1869 issue.
Hello all, I have one New Brunswick stamp, I believe in xf condition except a slight mark in the gum and a very light penciled number 7 on the back. 1860 Issue: Regards, James.